5D Mark II Team

Improvements & Gear

5D Mark II Features Request

Contents:

  • Introduction
  • List of Features Requested
  • List of Additional Filmmaking features
  • The importance of Standard frame rates
  • Information & Testimonials
  • Can I help?

INTRODUCTION

This is a list of improvements that have been requested since months ago by lot (thousands) of customers around the world. Please check “I Called Canon” and previous posts to see testimonials and procedure.

Some improvements could be more difficult or hard to achieve due “possible” hardware limitations, but others are really easy for Canon.

This Campaign has reached Canon departments in the past for the Manual Control request, and now is reaching them again for improvements that are possible to this camera and VERY important for Film makers.

Most (if not all) of these features CAN be implemented via Firmware Update, and that means: no big costs to Canon at all.  “Refreshing” this camera and keeping big sales and profit on an already designed and already in-production model, keeping it more competitive (especially important when competition arrives) is a big deal, isn’t it?

Doing so would reflect in: more sales, but also more loyalty to Canon, more credibility, then more long-term profit for the company.

The more customers requesting, the more chances (check Info & Testimonial).

As someone said:

“ If Canon want to maintain customer loyalty people need to know when they purchase a Canon product they are going to be looked after. If I knew Canon would add if possible any features wanted by customers, I’d buy Canon EVERYTIME. ”

LIST OF FEATURES REQUESTED

Frame Rates as in 7D Done
29.97 / 25 / 23.976 fps: STANDARD 30/25/24p video modes.

720p mode at 29.97 fps
It will allow LONGER video recording time before reaching the 4GB file size limit.

▪ Improve AF contrast detection algorithm and/or add Focusing Aids
Magic Lantern has done a lot on this, and proven it is extremely useful, even essential. See additional Filmmaking features.

Digital Zoom Video mode
To record on video a smaller area of the sensor as “digital zoom”. Very useful.

1:1 Crop Sensor Video mode
To record a native 1920×1080 area of the sensor, which extremely minimizes “jello” effect and eliminates aliasing issues/artifacts. This is possible in a similar way how Zoom level x5 and x10 works, but recording on video what you see on screen. This function could be part of the above one.

720p mode at 59.94 and 50 fps X Removed from final release 2.0.3

File Spanning function
A new video file is automatically created when 4GB is reached without stop recording. Very important for lot of users.

“EDIT” option in playback mode (for Video mode)
This would allow Cut and Save part of recorded video clip. It is available on 7D and much cheaper P&S cameras.

Noise Pattern Bug/Issue (Stills and Video mode)
FIX. Noise pattern/banding visible on shadows at high (and not so high) ISO.

More frames in Bracketing mode
For still photography. Very easy to fix.

Auto ISO in Manual mode
For still photography, improved and with selectable limits.

REMAP” hot & stuck pixels function
This will save Canon Technical Support LOT of money and time. It is an essential feature. We still don’t understand why it wasn’t already implemented.

Full HD through HDMI output while recording

Live Histogram for video mode   Done

Remote Start/Stop video recording using cable release (if hardware possible)

Audio Manual Gain for video recording   Done
FIX. Very easy, and essential for acceptable audio recording.

LIST of additional FILMMAKING features

Hugely demanded and used (until now only via Magic Lantern)

▪ Control of focus
▪ Peaking, false-color and edge detection on LCD
▪ Focus Assistance
▪ Focus rack
▪ Focus stacking
▪ Zebra stripes (video peaking)
▪ On-screen audio meters

… and LOT more features that has already been proven to be possible (and VERY useful) by Magic Lantern Project.

They are helping thousands of users on filmmaking jobs
, and Canon could do even a better implementation of them via Firmware update. That would be another BIG BANG to keep big sales on this great camera.

Focus Assistance System / Focus Detection Area
It would tell (in LiveView mode, and in real time if possible) when a specific area of the frame is in focus or not. This feature would be very helpful and very much appreciated by filmmakers.

Magic Lantern’s New Features Request:  Check them here, you will get very good and creative ideas on new features.

  • We hope Canon consider all these features very seriously to be implemented via Firmware update, because they ARE possible and they ARE VERY IMPORTANT for Film Making jobs (Nikon could do it before indeed…)

THE IMPORTANCE OF STANDARD FRAME RATES

EDIT: This is corrected with Firmware version 2.0.3 released on March, 2010.

Until now the 5D Mark II has not even a single frame rate compatible with any other video camera made by Canon, 7D included! That’s why we request the standard 29.97 fps too.

We hope that Canon is now aware of what this unique camera has started: a revolution in DSLRs, and the huge importance it has for professionals who already adopted it (along with lot of expensive full frame lenses) for serious videography and filmmaking jobs.

INFORMATION & TESTIMONIALS

See by yourself, this is HUGE, you are NOT alone:

(*) Web in japanese, you can use online translators, although results might be not very clear. It was translated by japanese people and sent to us. This is only a paragraph:

“24fps and 60fps were made possible (on the 7D) not because of dual DIGIG 4, actually a single DIGIC 4 can handle 24fps and 60fps.”

CAN I HELP?

Absolutely! You CAN help. Community efforts DO bring results, like in the “Manual Control” request campaign.

Just check “I Called Canon” and the links above to see the procedure, more information, some experiences and testimonials.

EVERY effort by every individual or group in the right way is VERY important and valuable, and will benefit all users. But remember that only online complains are not enough.

That’s the way this works.


Last update: March, 2010.

September 28, 2009 - Posted by | Articles & Tech Info, Campaigns, EOS 5D Mk II, Tech Ideas | , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,

6 Comments »

  1. – Extracted from a comment by a Canon customer (bolds by editors):

    “ I still don’t buy… not for a second… that the 5DII can’t do 24p. this is verging on being a religion, with canon making decrees that “such and such is impossible!”, when those of us with a modicum of technical knowledge are left questioning why the f*** that is the case.

    I’ve been pretty level-headed about this whole thing since picking up the 5DII this summer, and given canon the benefit of the doubt for a long time, but what bothers me at this point is how this all looks like amateur hour at canon. reps in the field giving conflicting reports about what’s possible, what’s not possible. purportedly technical canon employees who don’t seem to know what’s possible with their products. perhaps it’s all misinformation meant to keep us all doing exactly what we’re doing while they figure out how to maximize their profits.

    I’m not going to claim that i’m going to jump ship tomorrow and sell all my canon gear, but this experience has put the company in a VERY different light for me, and that will abso-frackin’-lutely factor into my future camera and lens purchase decisions.

    I spent a LOT of money on this stuff. and yes, it’s a “still camera with a video feature” – but it’s a feature all the same. and a lot of people have invested heavily in that feature, due in no small part to canon’s marketing (particularly the jabs at RED with the manual control update in june.) ”

    Comment by 5dmark2 | October 8, 2009 | Reply

  2. Comments by a reader.
    Posted on November 24, 2009

    Original source:

    http://www.cinema5d.com/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=4990&start=40#p54142

    Quoted text (bolds by editors):

    “5 minutes ago I called canon and asked for the REQUEST LIST
    The guy who answered was very nice.

    when i came to the line of the 720p, i mentioned to him that it’s very disappointing that there are things on the 7d that Not exist in the 5dm2 (and i am 10 years canon user) – At this point he told me Cannon said that in this new firmware she will allow all Identical video abilities that exists in the 7d (Has anyone heard about it?) !

    I hope that even much more”

    (..)

    “Cannon’s representative told me that many people call and they take seriously and Write down the things people want and ask.

    we Even had short dialogue about the Magic Lantern 0.1.6 release and from Things he said i realize that they are actually following it and Very aware to it.

    I got the impression that phone calls defiantly works! – We must not waste a moment – we must continue to call.

    Comment by 5dmark2 | November 26, 2009 | Reply

  3. […] Calling Canon and registering your Features Request for the 5D Mark II and/or 7D. Please check the Features Request List that has been written as reference by lot of 5D Mark II […]

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  4. […] still keep on requesting the Features and Improvements list posted long ago for this great camera with huge potential […]

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  5. […] trzeba przestawić aparat z NTSC na PAL. Mam nadzieję, że nowy firmware będzie zawierał także inne usprawnienia requestowane przez właścicieli pięć […]

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  6. If Canon wants to really shake up the broadcast industry, they should find a way to allow for HD SDI output, so that you can record component video out to an external device (e.g. Nanoflash). Or perhaps allow for higher recording speeds on 90Mbps flash cards. Component is much needed if you need to do some heavy post-production work (comparable to their RAW support for stills).

    Another thing to put on the wishlist for a follow-up model – XLR in & outputs for audio. The mini-jack just doesn’t work (assuming they will fix manual control in the firmware update).

    Comment by Richard van den Boogaard | December 12, 2009 | Reply


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